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Post by nnn on Mar 30, 2010 6:54:24 GMT -5
I'm enjoying UConn's beautiful fundamental basketball played with as perfect a blend of graceful finesse and explosive power as I've ever seen. UConn will not be this good every year - it's obvious hey'll have a big question mark at the post position next year. If you are a fan of women's basketball, it may be a long time before another team like this comes along. If you're not a fan of women's basketball, what difference does it make?
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Post by Ice on Mar 30, 2010 7:54:22 GMT -5
Tonight at 7pm, the score is 0-0. Do you realize if you're a UConn player waking up the morning of game-day after having won 75-straight games and trying to get yourself in the right frame of mind to approach the game as if the score is 0-0, in particularly if you've heard ANYTHING about what ANYBODY is saying about the opponents chances.
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Post by bruinbball on Mar 30, 2010 8:03:53 GMT -5
And for every article you can find where they are hurting wcbb I can find one with the opposite premise. But you know what it is doing, it's getting the sport more attention than it would have gotten without uconn's dominance. How about xavier vs. Stanford last night?? Does that make wcbb look any better to the casual fan to see a team miss two wide open layups and then give up a coast to coast layup to choke on a game they clearly could have won. It makes for a good story and is only stanford's second win by less than 10 this year, I guess they are bad for wcbb too??? Isn't it slightly funny the region that article came from is the same one that has the 'not so clear after last night' #2 team in the county that was down by 20 late in the game to the best team in wcbb earlier in the year?? I am guess if stanford was on this run this article wouldn't have made it to the press.
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Post by ExcelHSports on Mar 30, 2010 8:34:04 GMT -5
Good morning. Two good competitive games last night Baylor-Duke and Stanford-Xavier. All four teams had a opportunity to win. I felt really bad when Jerningan missed those two wide open layups for Xavier and I agree that someone on that team should have shut the Stanford player down early on in the last second drive. Looking forward to the Oklahoma-Kentucky game that should be a good one. Will probably turn and watch Lost, one of my favorite tv shows when Connecticut starts and catch the score later.
Steven Stremming Excel High School Sports
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Post by bballfanatic on Mar 30, 2010 8:34:32 GMT -5
I think Steve has a point. I realize the HC folks want to watch UCONN because of Kelly. That's understandable. The Perry people were that way when Katie Douglas was at Purdue and are still watching her in the WNBA. However, If all of you can look past your Geno adulation you might understand the point that's being made. If you're an average women's basktball fan, you might do what I have done the past week. Tune in to UConn games just long enough to see that the score is predictably lopsided , then go to another game - or tune in later - when there's a better game on. The Notre Dame/Oklahoma, Baylor/Duke, and Xavier/Stanford games were three of the best games I've seen in a long time and I watched them all the way through. I doubt if many people watch the UConn games from start to finish, unless you have some other reason to be interested in them.
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Post by bballfanatic on Mar 30, 2010 8:42:54 GMT -5
How about xavier vs. Stanford last night?? Does that make wcbb look any better to the casual fan to see a team miss two wide open layups and then give up a coast to coast layup to choke on a game they clearly could have won. To answer your question -- YES! It makes wcbb look competitive and interesting. If Dee Dee had made a layup, Stanford would have had plenty of time to go down the court and tie it up or shoot a three and win it. The game wasn't necessarily lost with her misses. By the way, it's pretty bad form to get on here and trash two Indiana girls for mistakes made, as you did in your previous posts. I imagine they feel pretty bad this morning and will for a long time. If someone on here pointed out a similar mistake by Ms. Faris, you would be outraged, I'm sure.
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Post by ExcelHSports on Mar 30, 2010 8:48:15 GMT -5
Here is an idea of maybe how to level the playing field at this time in the Women's game limit the scholarships back to 13 for each womens team like the mens game. I am surprised with Title IX that isn't a given. Would this help the situation? I also wouldn't be surprised when U Conn is in the final game that the TV ratings are the lowest in the Women's game history and that would not be good for the women's game. Just my opinion.
Steven Stremming Excel High School Sports
P.S. This has nothing to do with Kelly. This has to do with the game. I am a Laker fan and have always been one but when they won like they did a few years back, I turned the channel too or would read the score the next morning online.
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Post by bruinbball on Mar 30, 2010 9:00:26 GMT -5
Bballlunatic, I never mentioned a name on here for missing the bunnies, I am sure the girl know who she is and feels terrible and I felt terrible for them last night as well. Xavier was ahead 2 with 30 plus seconds on the clock and also missed the front end of a 1 and 1 and I won't name names in the event it might offend someone. On Faris, No, I would take it in stride, much like I did last year when Kelly missed the free throw (made 2 of 3) to tie the McD's All-American game last year with no time left on the clock. Just like I pointed out that I did not like when HC had Stratman inbound the ball vs. Bolingbrook on HC's first possession within 2 points with under a minute to play last year which led to a 5 second penalty and ultimately cost HC the game - it wasn't Stratman's fault, HC had 4 other possible players that could have inbounded the ball from the sideline and I seen Risinger's point in wanting his tallest player inbounding the ball, however he had four experienced guards that could have thrown that ball in but he chose not to - not the kids fault and I called it out. I will never fault a girl for making a physical mistake-they happen to everyone, but I will for a mental mistake or for lack of effort and on that Stanford final bucket there was a lack of effort to trap her when they had the chance. I call it as I see it, good or bad for the teams I like and the team I do not have an interest in. I'm not here to kiss anyone's behind and do not have an hidden agenda as some people do when someone talks about a particular school or player when they are mentioned as some people do *ahem* You and you infatuation with everything HC. It's apparent that you don't like winners and that is ok - trust me I know, I am a Cubs fans too, just try not to be offended when somone else (like the entire UConn fan base, HC fan base) does.
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Post by bruinbball on Mar 30, 2010 9:03:14 GMT -5
Steve, UConn has 11 players on their roster (one of which is a wlak-on that earned a scholarship) and will again next year unless someone leaves. Granted they would have had 13 if Elena Delle Donne or Jess McCormick would not have left. The reason the girls have 15 scholarships is strictly because of Title 9 - becuase men's football teams often have 85 scholarships available for football and they have to give the women additional scholarships to balance the number out a bit.
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Post by ExcelHSports on Mar 30, 2010 9:17:00 GMT -5
bruinball,
Thanks for the info.
Steven Stremming Excel High School Sports
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Post by ExcelHSports on Mar 30, 2010 9:28:22 GMT -5
Here is a point that U Conn coach mentioned.......is this valid? Geno Auriemma siad, "the problem lies in schools not taking women's sports seriously enough and demanding excellence of them." Steven Stremming Excel High School Sports P.S. Here is another link from a Philadelphia Newspaper writer www.bostonherald.com/sports/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1243372&srvc=rss
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Post by bruinbball on Mar 30, 2010 9:44:59 GMT -5
Steve, I absolutely agree with this, but I also agree the women's game is more of a niche market and may never get the complete fan attraction of the men's games, but there are several schools that do not put the same emphasis on their women as they do their men's teams.
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Post by ExcelHSports on Mar 30, 2010 9:50:18 GMT -5
bruinball,
As much college ball as I watch, I agree with that. The crowds on Mens nights and Women's nights are two totally different atmospheres. From the number of students in the stands and their participation all the way to the number of students in a band to the number of cheerleaders. But you do have people like Bobby Fong at Butler that go to Women's games and Barry Collier and at IU the AD Fred Glass goes to Indiana University womens games and Morgan at Purdue. So there are exceptions to that statement.
Steven Stremming Excel High School Sports
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Post by bruinbball on Mar 30, 2010 9:51:13 GMT -5
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Post by bruinbball on Mar 30, 2010 10:02:57 GMT -5
bruinball, As much college ball as I watch, I agree with that. The crowds on Mens nights and Women's nights are two totally different atmospheres. From the number of students in the stands and their participation all the way to the number of students in a band to the number of cheerleaders. But you do have people like Bobby Fong at Butler that go to Women's games and Barry Collier and at IU the AD Fred Glass goes to Indiana University womens games and Morgan at Purdue. So there are exceptions to that statement. Steven Stremming Excel High School Sports Back in the late '90's I seen several games where Bobby Knight stopped in to take a peek at women's games as well as several of his players. Their attendance does not necessarily represent full support. It takes a financial commitment from the university to attract and demand more of their coaches and also it take community support from local businesses. Promoting the teams may not be an easy task, but it is something they need to do. One of my greatest WCBB experiences was this year at the Notre Dame - UConn game in South Bend. That place was rocking and covered in lime green shirts. What a wonderful atmosphere those girls get to play in front of virtually every game. It's funny to note, their tickets are still $14 dollars cheaper than tickets to a UConn women's game.
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Post by bruinbball on Mar 30, 2010 10:17:01 GMT -5
How about getting the right players to buy-in and getting some of the absolute best players doesn't hurt either: "There's this perception out there that everything we do from the time we wake up till the time we go to bed is perfect," Auriemma said. "That's not the case at all. We try really hard in the recruiting process that if the player doesn't fit into our program or if I have to spend extra time convincing them that it's not about you, than I don't even bother. There are no team meetings to put people in their place because we don't have to worry about that. Those kids go somewhere else." It's been mentioned recently that Ariel Massengale from Bolingbrook had a sit down meeting with Geno and I believe her father. After the meeting she was not offered a scholarship. Exact details of course have not been released, but it has also been recently hinted that after waiting to hopefully hear back from UConn she called to commit to UT when she was told by Tennessee that they too were heading in a different direction. Sometimes it just takes a little more effort in many aspects for a team to become that great program. Geno and Pat and Tara Vandeveer have all shown that. Get talented players that are willing to give up the me for we, put them in a successful system and success will breed success.
"Sometimes the small details make the biggest impact: "Earlier this season, during a walk-through, one of the UConn players cut through the lane holding up the wrong hand to call for a pass. The coaches went ballistic.
"You'd have thought she violated a cardinal rule," recalled Doris Burke, a former college player who now works as an ESPN commentator. "If you want to know why Connecticut is so good, that's why.""
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Post by ExcelHSports on Mar 30, 2010 21:57:33 GMT -5
I saw the score on ESPN another blowout by U Conn.
Steven Stremming Excel High School Sports
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Post by bruinbball on Mar 31, 2010 0:03:18 GMT -5
It was only 40 points. I think the next game vs. Griner and Baylor may outdraw the National Championship game if UConn is in it.
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Post by ExcelHSports on Mar 31, 2010 4:51:25 GMT -5
only 40 points............I just think it's still bad for the game, in relationship to TV viewing of the women's game. This kind of stuff is boring to the general womens basketball tv watcher and they just look to see what the score is...... Again just my opinion...
Steven Stremming Excel High School Sports
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Post by bruinbball on Mar 31, 2010 7:47:23 GMT -5
If you don't like seeing basketball the way it is meant to be played then that is fine.
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